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the white house won't budge on taxes. the republican led house takes a break. can you make sense of this for us? >> i think that's a little above any of our pay grade trying to make sense of it all other than it seems that it's one more fight that we've seen over and over again and we are seeing once again it play out almost as it appears slow motion, carol. you mention the call between speaker boehner and president obama. they may have talked. no read out of the call per se. we are still a long way away from a deal that is for sure. why? because at its most basic neither side is giving on their primary position. president obama continues to insist over and over again any deal must include a tax rate increase on the top 2% of wage earners which republicans just as firmly insist is a nonstarter. today the president is going to continue his public pressure campaign according to the white house, he's meeting with a middle class family in northern virginia to discuss as they put it the importance of extending the tax cut for the middle class. they have not extended
the white house won't budge on taxes. the republican led house takes a break. can you make sense of this for us? >> i think that's a little above any of our pay grade trying to make sense of it all other than it seems that it's one more fight that we've seen over and over again and we are seeing once again it play out almost as it appears slow motion, carol. you mention the call between speaker boehner and president obama. they may have talked. no read out of the call per se. we are still...
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with the white house and republican leaders at a stalemate, president obama is hitting the road to rally support for his plan, which would raise taxes for the wealthiest americans. he met yesterday with house speaker john boehner, their first face to face meeting in more than three weeks. today the president will visit a detroit engine factory to rally support from auto workers. the president's meeting with speaker boehner didn't yield a big breakthrough, but the men did manage to agree on one thing, and that is that they will keep their negotiations behind closed doors. the men released this identical statement, saying this afternoon the president and speaker boehner met at the white house to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff. we're not reading out details of the conversation, but the lines of communication remain open. cnn's dan lothian is at the white house this morning. dan, i guess the fact that the lines of communication are open is a good sign. >> reporter: that's right. it is a good sign. it was just about a week ago that we were reporting about how nothing was going on
with the white house and republican leaders at a stalemate, president obama is hitting the road to rally support for his plan, which would raise taxes for the wealthiest americans. he met yesterday with house speaker john boehner, their first face to face meeting in more than three weeks. today the president will visit a detroit engine factory to rally support from auto workers. the president's meeting with speaker boehner didn't yield a big breakthrough, but the men did manage to agree on one...
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. >> it certainly does give weight and explanation for the white house argument, the reason they have not gopten more involved in actually arming and supporting those rebels on the groubd in syria. very complicated situation. nick payton walsh, thank you very much. >>> president obama promoting his plan to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. he's taking his message to the american people. he landed in detroit a couple of minutes ago. he's going to talk to workers at the detroit diesel corporation shortly. they make diesel engines. we'll bring you the president's remarks live as soon as they start. >>> they met back in 1977, but the relationship was considered taboo until now. we'll take with jane and penny about becoming the first same sex couple to get their marriage license in washington states. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] campbell's green bean casserole. it's amazing what soup can do >>> celebrating and tieing the knot, same-sex couples gather to say i do to make uns legal. folks in maryland and maine have to wait a few weeks, but the new law in washington state went into effect on th
. >> it certainly does give weight and explanation for the white house argument, the reason they have not gopten more involved in actually arming and supporting those rebels on the groubd in syria. very complicated situation. nick payton walsh, thank you very much. >>> president obama promoting his plan to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. he's taking his message to the american people. he landed in detroit a couple of minutes ago. he's going to talk to workers at the detroit...
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." >>> president obama steps out of the white house and into the home of a family much like those many middle class families all across the united states. it's all part of an effort to winover support for his plan in the face of fierce deadlock with the republicans over the looming fiscal cliff. our white house correspondent dan lothian caught up with the family just after the president left. dan is joining us now with the latest. how did it go, dan? >> reporter: well, wolf, the white house believes it went well. we've seen the president use this strategy before when he's locked in battle with republicans. he takes his message on the road. white house spokesman jay carney saying there are no announcements about face-to-face meetings or phone calls. for now this is how we see the president negotiating. it's a negotiating tactic that president obama always keeps in his tool kit, head to a backyard or living room, sit down with families who say his approach offers economic relief and send a loud message to congress with a personal touch. >> for them to be burdened unnecessarily because de
." >>> president obama steps out of the white house and into the home of a family much like those many middle class families all across the united states. it's all part of an effort to winover support for his plan in the face of fierce deadlock with the republicans over the looming fiscal cliff. our white house correspondent dan lothian caught up with the family just after the president left. dan is joining us now with the latest. how did it go, dan? >> reporter: well, wolf,...
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test. >>> in the fiscal battle with democrats and the obama white house. first read then asks, what does a smart poker player usually do when holding a bad hand? you fold to live another day. nbc news senior political editor mark murray, a gambler as i hear. you're a texan. we all gamble. what would be the next logical hand? because it seems today a lot of republicans are saying let's get the bush tax cut issue dealt with and then wait until next year and would that be something that the democrats and the president would embrace? >> well, this is all about gaining maximum leverage and the better leverage of republicans right now to delay the bigger battle in to february when the debt ceiling would have to be increased. as youç mentioned, essentially acquiesing to the democrats and the white house for those making $250,000 and less and let's have the bigger battle when it comes to raising the debt ceiling. president obama essentially today said he's not willing to play that game. noting what happened in 2011 with the u.s. hurting its credit rating, just t
test. >>> in the fiscal battle with democrats and the obama white house. first read then asks, what does a smart poker player usually do when holding a bad hand? you fold to live another day. nbc news senior political editor mark murray, a gambler as i hear. you're a texan. we all gamble. what would be the next logical hand? because it seems today a lot of republicans are saying let's get the bush tax cut issue dealt with and then wait until next year and would that be something that...
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president obama wants to get some of it from the top 2% of wage earners. he wants to raise their tax rate and limit how much they can deduct. the white house says this will bring in $1.6 trillion over ten years. >> that's what the american people have voted for. >> republicans say they'll agree to bring in more money, but not by raising tax rates. in fact, they want to lower tax rates for everyone. instead they'd raise money only by limits deductions and closing loopholes. speaker boehner says this will raise $800 billion over ten years. >> america faces a serious problem. our goal is to make sure it gets solved. >> step two, avoiding the drastic spending cuts that begin on january 1st, the so-called sequester. both sides want to find savings in medicare, but disagree about how to do it. >> we need a responsible white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> and step three? the debt limit. >> i will not play that game. >> because we've got a -- we have to break that habit before it starts. >> the nation is going to hit the debt limit early
president obama wants to get some of it from the top 2% of wage earners. he wants to raise their tax rate and limit how much they can deduct. the white house says this will bring in $1.6 trillion over ten years. >> that's what the american people have voted for. >> republicans say they'll agree to bring in more money, but not by raising tax rates. in fact, they want to lower tax rates for everyone. instead they'd raise money only by limits deductions and closing loopholes. speaker...
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president barack obama and house speaker john boehner met face to face at the white house today. no details on their conversations but refs for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the last time the president and the speaker met in person to talk about the fiscal cliff was more than three weeks ago. >>> just after midnight on sunday gay couples in washington state made history. the voter approved referendum was signed into law on wednesday. >>> venezuelan president yugo chavez is returning to cuba for more cancer surgery. this time he is making sure a new leader is in place in case he doesn't return. he named the vice president as his choice for his choice in case something happens to him. he's scheduled to be swarn in for a new six-year term on january 10th. >>> some very sad news for fans of music superstar jenny rivera. they have found the wreckage of the private jet believing to be carrying the popular mexican-american singer and six others. the plane lost contact early this morning. so far, no cause has been given for that crash. >>> the menorah has been il
president barack obama and house speaker john boehner met face to face at the white house today. no details on their conversations but refs for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the last time the president and the speaker met in person to talk about the fiscal cliff was more than three weeks ago. >>> just after midnight on sunday gay couples in washington state made history. the voter approved referendum was signed into law on wednesday. >>> venezuelan...
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that i went to a private meeting with president obama at the white house. lots of people supported them, over for chats, coffee, doughnut ts burke this looks like the msnbc commentary, people who host those commentary shows that they're on the team? >> well, thank is the impression. i just don't see what use it is to go when you can't get anything out of the president. in other words, you're basically -- the problem with this is it seems to be an act of capitulation. please spin me -- >> lots of proponents have gone to off the record briefings. >> no. >> they've been described as influential. >> influential progressives. >> did they talk with you? >> what bothers me is they go about it in lockstep silence and they won't talk what they asked the president because they're not bound to off the record. they can me what they said, how they viewed this thing. but i called almost every one of these people, oh, i'm sorry, i can't say a word. this is like tor grets or something. >> at least you called them. let me get a bring. coming up next, a death in the subways
that i went to a private meeting with president obama at the white house. lots of people supported them, over for chats, coffee, doughnut ts burke this looks like the msnbc commentary, people who host those commentary shows that they're on the team? >> well, thank is the impression. i just don't see what use it is to go when you can't get anything out of the president. in other words, you're basically -- the problem with this is it seems to be an act of capitulation. please spin me --...
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>>> president barack obama, house speaker john boehner met face-to-face at the white house today to try to prevent the fiscal cliff now just 23 days away. no details on their conversations but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the last time the president and the speaker met in person to talk about the fiscal cliff was more than three weeks ago. >>> and just after midnight on sunday, making history. the governor signed the voter-approved referendum into law on wednesday. >>> and hugo chavez is returning to cuba for more cancer surgery but this time he is making sure a new leader is in place in case he doesn't return, and he named the vice president as his choice for a replacement in case something happens for him. the 58-year-old president is still scheduled to be sworn in for a new six-year-term on january 10th. >>> sad news for fans of music star jenni rivera. there doesn't appear to be any survivors. the plane lost contact with air traffic controllers early this morning. so far no cause has been given for that crash. >>> the national menorah in front of t
>>> president barack obama, house speaker john boehner met face-to-face at the white house today to try to prevent the fiscal cliff now just 23 days away. no details on their conversations but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the last time the president and the speaker met in person to talk about the fiscal cliff was more than three weeks ago. >>> and just after midnight on sunday, making history. the governor signed the voter-approved referendum...
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that happened at the white house today, we are frying to get more details, we're trying to get our white house chief correspondent jessica yellin on the phone and when she gets more details we'll bring it to you. >>> do you really know how much the extra taxes are going to cost you? lisa sylvester does the math. >> reporter: at the whit low's on wilson restaurant in arlington, sa virginia there,'s plenty of food and drink, but there's something else cooking up. co-owner jonathan williams worrying about the government's fiscal cliff. >> there's a real correlation, people have jobs they spend money, if people are worried about losing their jobs, or don't have a job, they're not going to go out that much, they're going to cook at home or stay home. >> reporter: just a couple miles in the pentagon, many of the people here work directly for the defense department and it's contractors. the defense industry is facing $125 billion of direct -- in addition several key tax ben fis are scheduled to expire at the end of the year that will have a direct impact on the pocket books of many americans. t
that happened at the white house today, we are frying to get more details, we're trying to get our white house chief correspondent jessica yellin on the phone and when she gets more details we'll bring it to you. >>> do you really know how much the extra taxes are going to cost you? lisa sylvester does the math. >> reporter: at the whit low's on wilson restaurant in arlington, sa virginia there,'s plenty of food and drink, but there's something else cooking up. co-owner jonathan...
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president obama and john boehner met face-to-face at the white house to try to prevent the fiscal cliff. now just 23 days away. >>> the wording here is identical, ending with this, the lines of communication remain open. the two men last spoke by phone on wednesday and on friday mr. boehner said the white house had wasted another week for potential compromise. we don't know what prompted this meeting just that for the first time in a while the two sides are agreeing on something even if it's just the wording of their statements and keeping tight-lipped about what was said. don? >> thank you very much. >>> in today's meetings between president obama and speaker boehner, is it a sign that we are close to a fiscal cliff deal? i asked the senior cnn analyst, david gergen. >> this week is a crucial week to see if they can get a break through. in fact, they are willing to sit down and they did it in private, and instead of the political theater we have seen in the last few weeks i think that's encouraging. there's even a bigger long-term issue, and that is whether the kind of agreement they c
president obama and john boehner met face-to-face at the white house to try to prevent the fiscal cliff. now just 23 days away. >>> the wording here is identical, ending with this, the lines of communication remain open. the two men last spoke by phone on wednesday and on friday mr. boehner said the white house had wasted another week for potential compromise. we don't know what prompted this meeting just that for the first time in a while the two sides are agreeing on something even...
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statement, president obama has long opposed so-called right to work laws and he continues to oppose them now. the president believes our economy is stronger when workers get good wages and good benefits. and he opposes attempts to -- he opposes attempts that -- can we change the graphic? >> it is up on the screen. >> he opposes the -- roll back their rights. michigan and its workers' role in the revival of the u.s. automobile industry is a prime example of how unions have helped build a strong middle class and strong american economy. that has come from matt lairic before the president's speech there. polls show michiganders are torn, divided on this measure. some polls show a little bit of majority support on the effort. but the president is coming down squarely on the side of unions here. and he -- there is leave nothing room for doubt where he stands, brooke. >> that's what we're hearing, what you're getting from the white house today and certainly we don't know, but perhaps the president will mention what is happening not too far away in lansing. let me ask you, jessica, the fis
statement, president obama has long opposed so-called right to work laws and he continues to oppose them now. the president believes our economy is stronger when workers get good wages and good benefits. and he opposes attempts to -- he opposes attempts that -- can we change the graphic? >> it is up on the screen. >> he opposes the -- roll back their rights. michigan and its workers' role in the revival of the u.s. automobile industry is a prime example of how unions have helped...
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president obama pushed for the power trance fosform as part of white house plan they unveiled a week ago. fiscal cliff, 26 days away. christine romans explains how going over the cliff could affect you and your family. >> reporter: brooke, here's what the sequester could mean for domestic programs. fewer women and children with assistance and child care aid. cuts to education nearly 100,000 head start spots at risk. more than 25,000 teachers and teachers aids could lose their jobs and science and public research grants could be cut including in to cancer and childhood diseases. fewer americans could receive drug abuse treatment and $700 million slashed from the epa budget. cutting back of food inspection. disaster relief, omb says, quote, the federal emergency management administration's ability to respond would be undermined. and finally, from border patrol to hiring new fbi agents, correction officers, federal prosecutors, all could be scaled back. now, all of these cuts, brooke, don't happen exactly at 12:01 a.m. on january 2nd. they happen over the course of a year. but agencies
president obama pushed for the power trance fosform as part of white house plan they unveiled a week ago. fiscal cliff, 26 days away. christine romans explains how going over the cliff could affect you and your family. >> reporter: brooke, here's what the sequester could mean for domestic programs. fewer women and children with assistance and child care aid. cuts to education nearly 100,000 head start spots at risk. more than 25,000 teachers and teachers aids could lose their jobs and...
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now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. >> this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> with which i agree but i think the risk here for the gop is that they become the party of rich people. and i think you saw that in the election. i don't think that is their intent. i think their intent is quite sound. >> they are becoming the party of rich white older men. you can't think of any other section of the community right now thinking the republican party is for me. >> i think that is why the politics of this make it possible to go over the cliff. i think the
now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. >> this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate that if he goes over, that they are going to...
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met face-to-face at the white house to prevent the fiscal cliff now just 23 day as way. we don't have any details of their conversation. reps for both sides say lines of communication remain open. >>> some gay couples living in washington state made history after sunday becoming the first legal same-sex marriages in the state. sarah and emily coiffeur were the first to get married at the king county courthouse in seattle. the governor signed the vote area proved referendum into law on wednesday. very sad news for jiffy riff air yachlt they found the wreckage after private jet carrying the mechl canal singer and six others and there doesn't appear to be any survivors. they lost contact with the air traffic controllers earlier this morning. >>> those are your headlines this hour. i'm don lemon keeping you informed. cnn, the most trusted name in news. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it raises your testosterone levels, and... is concentrated, so you could use le
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house with president obama. we like to spend our sunday afternoons with cnn contributor. lz granderson, a writer for espn, consultant and strategist, good to see body of you. john boehner had some pretty tough words for the president on friday, listen. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue that the president seeks on the table. well, but none of it's going to be possible if the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> so anna, he also said the white house has wasted another week. now two days later, they're meeting again. did boehner's remarks make the difference? >> good. look, i think it's great. we cannot reach a deal if you are posturing and negotiating through press conferences. they need so sit in a room, they need to look at each other, they need to talk constructive debate, and they need to move this ball forward. i think what happened today is a very good sign. americans should be encouraged. it's a good thing. when our congressional leadership
house with president obama. we like to spend our sunday afternoons with cnn contributor. lz granderson, a writer for espn, consultant and strategist, good to see body of you. john boehner had some pretty tough words for the president on friday, listen. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue that the president seeks on the table. well, but none of it's going to be possible if the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> so...
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president obama, house speaker john boehner met face-to-face at the white house today to try to prevent the fiscal cliff now just 23 days away. we don't have any details on their conversations, but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. meanwhile, at least four republican senators now support a tax hike on wealthy americans. here is senator tom coburn of oklahoma. >> the fact is we're spending money that we don't have on things we don't absolutely need, and there's no grown-ups in washington that will say time-out, stop the politics, let's have a compromise rather than continue to play the game through the press and hurt the country. >> more on this story in just a few minutes with our senior political analyst, david gergen. >>> a half million dollars, that's the bond set today by a judge near dallas for cowboys nose tackle josh brent. he was behind the wheel in a car accident this weekend that killed teammate jerry brown, jr. police believe brent was drunk when he flipped his mercedes yesterday morning. >>> we have an update to last week's tragedy in kansas cit
president obama, house speaker john boehner met face-to-face at the white house today to try to prevent the fiscal cliff now just 23 days away. we don't have any details on their conversations, but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. meanwhile, at least four republican senators now support a tax hike on wealthy americans. here is senator tom coburn of oklahoma. >> the fact is we're spending money that we don't have on things we don't absolutely need, and...
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boehner and president obama met at the white house yesterday. both released statements basically they wouldn't say anything, but that "the lines of communication remain open." can we hope for a deal any time soon? cory booker, the mayor of newark, new jersey. nice to have you with us. >> very nice to be here. >> not part of the fiscal cliff discussions, apparently down to the two of them. what happens to your city if we go over the fiscal cliff? >> it's a real challenge for people all over my state, frankly. a lot of families in this tough economic time, seeing them having $2,000 or more on average of expenses of not enjoying tax cuts, will make a real impact. people barely making mortgage payments, falling behind on car payments this will be a difficult thing. and that will have a multiplier affect. people who don't have extra money to spend hurt the stores that that would be shopping in, the food they would be buying, so on, so forth this is a time we can't have a government that is especially republicans, holding hostage all of this country.
boehner and president obama met at the white house yesterday. both released statements basically they wouldn't say anything, but that "the lines of communication remain open." can we hope for a deal any time soon? cory booker, the mayor of newark, new jersey. nice to have you with us. >> very nice to be here. >> not part of the fiscal cliff discussions, apparently down to the two of them. what happens to your city if we go over the fiscal cliff? >> it's a real...
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chief white house correspondent ed henry looks in to that tonight. >> reporter: pulling on the heart strings as if he were back on the campaign trail, president obama visited middle class family in virginia. >> a couple of thousand dollars means a couple months' rent for this family. >> once again, he was trying to frame the battle oaf the fiscal cliff as being all about taxes. with no mention of spending cuts. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rates from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one. that is good for the american economy. >> republicans believe the reason the president is going light on spending cuts and demanding the budget deal include another increase in the nation's debt ceiling is clear. >> this isn't about getting a handle on the deficits or debt for him. it's about spending even more than he already has. >> white house aides reject republican claims that holding the debt limit over the president head is the only mechanism to get him to trim s
chief white house correspondent ed henry looks in to that tonight. >> reporter: pulling on the heart strings as if he were back on the campaign trail, president obama visited middle class family in virginia. >> a couple of thousand dollars means a couple months' rent for this family. >> once again, he was trying to frame the battle oaf the fiscal cliff as being all about taxes. with no mention of spending cuts. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents...
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for what it's worth, president obama and house speaker boehner are talking. they had a nice telephone conversation. that's terrific. the first time in a week but apparently that's the headline. that's the editorial body. not much came out of it that we know of. sources say no real breakthrough. no formal negotiations. sessions are not scheduled. no back channel discussions taking place that anybody knows about at this time and as we wait for the white house briefing to begin, let's bring in wolf blitzer on this topic. there are a couple of polls that are very telling about how americans feel about congress and the president are behaving when it comes to the fiscal cliff. let me read some of these numbers for you. should obama compromise to get things done. 72% say yes. 22% say no. should the gop compromise to get things done. and take a look. 72% say yes. my question for you, wolf, i'm not sure you'll have the answer but perhaps you'll have guidance. for those democrats who say the president has a mandate because voters voted him into office while he campaign
for what it's worth, president obama and house speaker boehner are talking. they had a nice telephone conversation. that's terrific. the first time in a week but apparently that's the headline. that's the editorial body. not much came out of it that we know of. sources say no real breakthrough. no formal negotiations. sessions are not scheduled. no back channel discussions taking place that anybody knows about at this time and as we wait for the white house briefing to begin, let's bring in...
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now, we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> house speaker boehner saying that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans, larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate is because, come the fiscal cliff moment, that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> speaking as a reagan conservative, i must say i rather agree with you. probably shouldn't. but i do. i think divided government is very difficult. and there's some principles that speaker boehner is fighting for, with which i actually agree. but i think politically, the risk here for the gop, is they've become the party of rich people. and they give up the middle-class to the democrats. and i think you
now, we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> house speaker boehner saying that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans, larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate is because, come the...
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snow covered bo obama running across the white house north lawn. >> oh. >> did you practice if? >> i've never done this before. >> well, that's the president's top strategist david axelrod squinting as the stash gets slashed in front of everybody. the first time he's had a completely clean face in 40 years, he says. it was all for a good cause after raising a million bucks for the epilepsy charity he founded. could mark sanford be making a political comeback? the former governor of south carolina not ruling out a run for jim demint's seat in 2014. he told "the wall street journal" it's not a no, but not a yes. he was once a rising star in the rising party before an extramarital affair derailed his career. nikki haley gets to pick a replacement. comedy central's stephen colbert hinted at another unlikely candidate. >> but who will she pick? let's see. want somebody young, somebody conservative, somebody from south carolina, maybe somebody who had a super pac. wait a second. [ applause ] watch where you point that thing. it's powerful. okay. >> that wandering f infinger. colbert t
snow covered bo obama running across the white house north lawn. >> oh. >> did you practice if? >> i've never done this before. >> well, that's the president's top strategist david axelrod squinting as the stash gets slashed in front of everybody. the first time he's had a completely clean face in 40 years, he says. it was all for a good cause after raising a million bucks for the epilepsy charity he founded. could mark sanford be making a political comeback? the former...
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john boehner and president obama meeting face to face at the white house yesterday. first time they've had direct talks in more than three weeks. with 22 days until we go over the cliff and congress set to go on holiday break on friday. neither side is discussing details of the talks. both agree the line of communication remain open. >>> no sign of a north korean rocket launch, yet. they announced a 13-day window for a possible long-range rocket launch. the window opens today. they claim it's a peaceful bid to advance their space program, but the u.s. sees it as more ominous and is threatening sanctions if the launch takes place. >>> a very festive and busy sunday at seattle city hall. 133 same-sex couples tied the knot in seattle on the day gay marriage became legal in washington state. sara and emily koefert the first couple to get married at 12:04 a.m. the same-sex couples marrying in seattle were the first to pick up marriage licenses on thursday in the state. the state requires a three-day waiting period before the ceremonies. >>> a fireball streaking through th
john boehner and president obama meeting face to face at the white house yesterday. first time they've had direct talks in more than three weeks. with 22 days until we go over the cliff and congress set to go on holiday break on friday. neither side is discussing details of the talks. both agree the line of communication remain open. >>> no sign of a north korean rocket launch, yet. they announced a 13-day window for a possible long-range rocket launch. the window opens today. they...
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obama has been against right to work legislation. you looked at what happened in wisconsin with governor scott walker. his attempt to take away collective bargaining rights and he's spoken out about this, too, saying that unions have helped the meddle class and that they've helped the american economy. >> alison kosik, live for us watching the impending crowds in lansing. stay with cnn today at 2:00 p.m. eastern, when president obama is set to speak live. we're also going to see if he has anything to say about exactly what alison was just reporting on and i have some breaking news. an update about the death of the navy s.e.a.l. in afghanistan that we brought you just about a half hour ago. the defense department is now sending out his identity. and he -- he was petty officer first class nicholas check. 28 years old of monroeville, pennsylvania. special op killed in action during that special forces mission to rescue an american doctor in afghanistan. that doctor, he was either kidnapped by taliban or smugglers. we do know that check
obama has been against right to work legislation. you looked at what happened in wisconsin with governor scott walker. his attempt to take away collective bargaining rights and he's spoken out about this, too, saying that unions have helped the meddle class and that they've helped the american economy. >> alison kosik, live for us watching the impending crowds in lansing. stay with cnn today at 2:00 p.m. eastern, when president obama is set to speak live. we're also going to see if he has...
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obama had selected her piece as the winner. >>> coming up, the bionic actor. we have a young man here with his luke skywalker hand and an update on his recovery from a horrific accident onset. plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪ [ spa lady ] i started enbrel. it's clinically proven to provide clearer skin. [ rv guy ] enbrel may not work for everyone -- and may not clear you completely, but for many, it gets skin clearer fast, within 2 months, and keeps it clearer up to 9 months. [ male announcer ] because enbrel®, etanercept, suppresses your immune system, it may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal, events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, and nervous system and blood disorders have occurred. before starting enbrel, your doctor should test you for tuberculosis and discuss whether you've been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. don't start enbrel if you have an infection like the flu. tell your doctor if you're prone to infections, have cuts or sores, have had hepatitis b
obama had selected her piece as the winner. >>> coming up, the bionic actor. we have a young man here with his luke skywalker hand and an update on his recovery from a horrific accident onset. plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪ [ spa lady ] i started enbrel. it's clinically proven to provide clearer skin. [ rv guy ] enbrel may not work for everyone -- and may not clear you completely, but for many, it gets skin clearer fast, within 2 months, and keeps it clearer up to 9...
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the white house weighed in as well. we're not taking money from super-pacs or anything like that, but they don't want to tap back into their donors. they feel their donors are all tapped out after this election, which, of course, raised record amounts of money. that's why they look to corporate donations. they're pointing out this year the celebrations are going to be much more scaled back. there will be three inaugural balls, no big concert. so it's not the same huge celebration that we saw back in 2008. of course, that's in part because of the economy and they want to be mindful of that. but that is what is really driving this change. they feel their supporters, donors are tapped out after this historically election campaign. >> more on that in a few moments. thank you. >> the kansas city chiefs will pay for an nfl linebacker's funeral after his suicide. that tops our look at stories around the "news nation" today. not only will the chiefs pay for joevan belcher's funeral, the team has also offered financial assistanc
the white house weighed in as well. we're not taking money from super-pacs or anything like that, but they don't want to tap back into their donors. they feel their donors are all tapped out after this election, which, of course, raised record amounts of money. that's why they look to corporate donations. they're pointing out this year the celebrations are going to be much more scaled back. there will be three inaugural balls, no big concert. so it's not the same huge celebration that we saw...
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that makes it harder. >> tell us something about the obama white house that we do not know. >> what does obama think of mitt romney? what does he really think? i think he feels that romney is incompetence because he did not run a better campaign. i suspect that one of the teams in all of the coverage of the campaign is going to be that romney never found a way to -- either the method or the theme of how to run against obama were as they thought it was going to be easy. >> we are about to get the hook here -- the penultimate question. what is the one thing you would like to know about president obama that you do not? >> i did ask him this. i did not put it in the book. he keeps a diary. i would like to have access. [laughter] he said, i said, do you keep a diary? he said, yes, but not on all of these details. i said the outcome on -- i said, come on. let's see it. i am sure he will write a really interesting them more. >> what did he tell you about the diary? >> that it existed. no detail. he did not offer me to read from it or anything like that. you know, is it dictated? is it written?
that makes it harder. >> tell us something about the obama white house that we do not know. >> what does obama think of mitt romney? what does he really think? i think he feels that romney is incompetence because he did not run a better campaign. i suspect that one of the teams in all of the coverage of the campaign is going to be that romney never found a way to -- either the method or the theme of how to run against obama were as they thought it was going to be easy. >> we...
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. >>> casper, deep blue, bird, jordan, mcenroe, coners, boehner, obama. it is friday, december 7th, this is "now." >> joining me today, chief economic correspondent for politico ben white, editor at large for salon.com, joe walsh, queen bee and editing manager of the grio.com, and buzz fooeds.com ben smith. the labor department delivered a december surprise, which might just alter the debate over the fiscal cliff. despite predictions of stalled job creation in november in superstorm sandy and looming fiscal cliff, the nation added 146,000 jobs last month, and unemployment ticked down to 7.7%. while november's figures are higher than expected, september and october were revised down 16 and 33,000 jobs respectively. chief economists for moody's analytics mark zandi cautions november may see a downward revision but the numbers are a good sign. >> bottom line, feels like the job market is holding firm in the face of sandy and fiscal cliff concerns, so that's good news. >> surprising exactly no one, the white house and republicans had different spin on the num
. >>> casper, deep blue, bird, jordan, mcenroe, coners, boehner, obama. it is friday, december 7th, this is "now." >> joining me today, chief economic correspondent for politico ben white, editor at large for salon.com, joe walsh, queen bee and editing manager of the grio.com, and buzz fooeds.com ben smith. the labor department delivered a december surprise, which might just alter the debate over the fiscal cliff. despite predictions of stalled job creation in november...
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the white house says the concert will go on and president obama will attend, saying they have no control over who performs at the concert. >> the anger is exploding. thank you to you tonight. >>> when we come back, the image making our "instant index" tonight. a phone call to the president. why what was said on the other end of this line made history. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. of washington about the future of medicare and social security. anncr: but you deserve straight talk about the options on the... table and what they mean for you and your family. ancr: aarp is cutting through all the political spin. because for our 37 million members, only one word counts. get the facts at earnedasay.org. let's keep medicare... and social security strong for generations to come. if you're living with moderate to severe crohn's disease, and it feels like your life revolves around your symptoms, ask your gastroenterologist about humira adalimumab. humira has been proven to work fo
the white house says the concert will go on and president obama will attend, saying they have no control over who performs at the concert. >> the anger is exploding. thank you to you tonight. >>> when we come back, the image making our "instant index" tonight. a phone call to the president. why what was said on the other end of this line made history. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain...
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house is decorated and from the looks of it the obamas will have a fun holiday. >> the white house is ready for christmas. today first lady michelle obama has given a tour and that is not it. >> there's been a lot of soul searching going on at fox news. and i am confident that they eventually will find one. >> i think they park better than i do. >> psy said some anti-american things. ♪ >> no big deal. we don't believe psy. >> controversy erupts after president obama embraces a rapper once calling for the death of innocent americans. >> he was caught on camera shaking his hand. he's not going to stand up for our brave men and women in the military? that's pretty sad. >> we have specifics coming out of our eyeballs. i'm very confident we can take the smat. we're doing to win this race because people know we need a better future for this country and i don't think people are hoping for four more years of this mess. >> let's get to our panel. jonathan capehart is an msnbc contributor and karen finney is an msnbc political analyst and the former director of communications at the dnc. kare
house is decorated and from the looks of it the obamas will have a fun holiday. >> the white house is ready for christmas. today first lady michelle obama has given a tour and that is not it. >> there's been a lot of soul searching going on at fox news. and i am confident that they eventually will find one. >> i think they park better than i do. >> psy said some anti-american things. ♪ >> no big deal. we don't believe psy. >> controversy erupts after...
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as for tomorrow's concert, the white house confirms president obama will attend. saying, it's not up to them who gets invited to perform. >> from a p.r. perspective, it will be interesting to watch. >> and social media. >> i'm surprised it took this long to come out. >> it has been percolating in south korea. but it's now hitting america, big-time. >> thank you very much. >>> a lot of other news breaking overnight. for that, mr. ron claiborne. >> in the news, the boss of the two australian deejays behind the prank call to kate middleton's hospital room is speaking out. the deejays have been pulled off the air, after one of the nurses who answered the call died, in an apparent suicide. but the station is refusing to fire those deejays. >>> and president obama has requested $60 billion in federal aid for states that were devastated by superstorm sandy. it may not pass in congress until next year because of the fiscal cliff situation. >>> and some electronic device bans could be lifted. in a letter to the faa, the agency called for greater use of portable devices on
as for tomorrow's concert, the white house confirms president obama will attend. saying, it's not up to them who gets invited to perform. >> from a p.r. perspective, it will be interesting to watch. >> and social media. >> i'm surprised it took this long to come out. >> it has been percolating in south korea. but it's now hitting america, big-time. >> thank you very much. >>> a lot of other news breaking overnight. for that, mr. ron claiborne. >> in...
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. >> president obama and speaker boehner negotiate face to face at the white house. >> republicans are softening their resistance to a tax increase for the rich, but they want something in return. >> there is a growing group of folks realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it related to the tax issue. >> an american doctor who had been kidnapped by the taliban in afghanistan was rescued. >> dr. dilip joseph is free, but one u.s. navy seal lost his life in this mission. >> this fallen hero was a member of navy s.e.a.l. team 6. >> condolences pouring in after the tragic death of mexican-american singer jenni rivera, killed in a plane crash. >> for the first time since their prank call that led to the apparent suicide of kate middleton's nurse, those radio hosts are speaking out. >> we didn't have any idea like something like this could possibly happen. we couldn't see this p haing. it was meant to be a prank call. >> the midwest covered in snow this morning. some saw up to 17 inches of snow. >> you head out with your well dressed pet monkey. suddenly you two are separated. >> oh,
. >> president obama and speaker boehner negotiate face to face at the white house. >> republicans are softening their resistance to a tax increase for the rich, but they want something in return. >> there is a growing group of folks realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it related to the tax issue. >> an american doctor who had been kidnapped by the taliban in afghanistan was rescued. >> dr. dilip joseph is free, but one u.s. navy seal lost his life in...
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but now they're at the president obama white house almost every week meeting with president obama. and i unde t a i underst what ab the f all this face time with president. does t i we're tol elizabe mas sea committ them on board with his agenda, particularly for his side of the negotiations with congressional republicans over the bush tax cuts and the stimulus and the deficit. this president seems to have a thick skin if letting bygones be bygones does not come naturally to him as a man, he is doing a convincing job as a president. from the friendly response from the business leaders after these meetings, even from the ones who supported mitt romney. it does not seem like the president is calling these business leaders to the white house to read them the riot act. it does not seem like he is trying to exact political revenge. it seal like he is trying to get them on board with his agenda, particularly for his side of the negotiations with congressional republicans over the bush tax cuts and the stimulus and the deficit. this president seems to have a thick skin if letting bygones
but now they're at the president obama white house almost every week meeting with president obama. and i unde t a i underst what ab the f all this face time with president. does t i we're tol elizabe mas sea committ them on board with his agenda, particularly for his side of the negotiations with congressional republicans over the bush tax cuts and the stimulus and the deficit. this president seems to have a thick skin if letting bygones be bygones does not come naturally to him as a man, he is...
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"congress and the white house need to agree on a plan for taxes and spending." john boehner and president obama spoke on the phone yesterday, a day after the president offered to reduce his initial demand in higher tax revenue over a decade to $1.4 trillion. speaker boehner countered with another offer. and lawmakers were expressing pessimism that a deal was close leading kevin mccarthy to say, i think it is getting worse and not better. stock futures are higher as investors wait for news on whether the federal reserve will announce a new stimulus plan today. regulators have launched three rounds of quantitative easing since the crisis hit. ben bernanke will be held in news conference and you could hear live right here on c-span radio. those are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. [video clip] >> the white house was very controversial. l'enfant designed washington city. there was a competition and he submitted the design for a palace. americans were not having a palace. it was not particularly awe- inspiring. in fact, in 1821, a european diplomat told
"congress and the white house need to agree on a plan for taxes and spending." john boehner and president obama spoke on the phone yesterday, a day after the president offered to reduce his initial demand in higher tax revenue over a decade to $1.4 trillion. speaker boehner countered with another offer. and lawmakers were expressing pessimism that a deal was close leading kevin mccarthy to say, i think it is getting worse and not better. stock futures are higher as investors wait for...
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is the white house ready to go over the fiscal cliff? and he said absolutely. is that digging in or a scare tactic? i was surprised to hear him say that. >> one of the biggest criticisms of president obama and the administration has been they tend to negotiate against themselves. i'm at this position and a week later i'm at this position. what he's trying to do is show their hardening their stance but in the end they will make a deal. it's hard to raise $1.6 trillion in revenues. most of the deals we've seen that were working were two and a half to one spending cuts. and all you are hearing about is revenues. >> the republicans on the hill really believe that the president is prepared to go over the cliff and blame them. they believe this is a political exercise. and so they believe that's what's happening. gietner hardened their position. >> we have about a minute left. want to shift focus to syria. there's word that they are preparing chemical weapons i mean loading some of these chemical weapons into bombs and into planes. what are your concerns about this?
is the white house ready to go over the fiscal cliff? and he said absolutely. is that digging in or a scare tactic? i was surprised to hear him say that. >> one of the biggest criticisms of president obama and the administration has been they tend to negotiate against themselves. i'm at this position and a week later i'm at this position. what he's trying to do is show their hardening their stance but in the end they will make a deal. it's hard to raise $1.6 trillion in revenues. most of...
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obama, the white house projection last offer -- \[inaudible] 53% of americans will blame republicans in congress if you go over the fiscal cliff. how long can you have that hard above. -- how long can you afford politically to have those tax cuts? >> america faces a very serious problem and our goal is to make sure it gets solved. we have a debt problem that is out of control. we have got to cut spending and i believe it is appropriate to put revenues on the table. the receive news we are putting -- of the revenues we are putting from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more -- more of their money to the federal government without raising the tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >>\[inaudible question] >> i think our members understand the seriousness of faces. trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. $16 trillion of debt on the books. every man, woman and child owing the american government $50,000 and that number is increasing every single year. as a result, our members understand that we
obama, the white house projection last offer -- \[inaudible] 53% of americans will blame republicans in congress if you go over the fiscal cliff. how long can you have that hard above. -- how long can you afford politically to have those tax cuts? >> america faces a very serious problem and our goal is to make sure it gets solved. we have a debt problem that is out of control. we have got to cut spending and i believe it is appropriate to put revenues on the table. the receive news we are...
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one thing which we note that just before president obama took effect, white house figures show the federal budget was $2.9 trillion. next year's estimate is going to be $3.8 trillion. this is a 31% increase in spending in just four years. we have someone as the president, our great president, who is hung up on taxing and spending. what we need is a house of representatives that's hung up on jobs and job creation. the american product. entrepreneurship. creativity. competition with the world. the next new great ideas. not that will come from this body but from the creativity of the american people. this is what republicans are trying to keep alive in our country. the idea of self-reliance and working hard and taking care of people that are not just in your house but are in your neighborhood. your cities. our states, the vibrancy of our country. and we are headed over the fiscal cliff after four years of leadership from this president who is running, running directly to the fiscal cliff. has even said, and secretary of treasury said, we don't mind jumping off this cliff. mr. speaker, we shou
one thing which we note that just before president obama took effect, white house figures show the federal budget was $2.9 trillion. next year's estimate is going to be $3.8 trillion. this is a 31% increase in spending in just four years. we have someone as the president, our great president, who is hung up on taxing and spending. what we need is a house of representatives that's hung up on jobs and job creation. the american product. entrepreneurship. creativity. competition with the world....
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first term, there are growing concerns about a white house request to eliminate one of the few tools congress has to keep government spending in check. >>> and a new report raising serious questions about how taxpayer money's being spent including claims that it helped folks attend a training course that looked like something straight out of the walking dead. [gunfire] [ loud party sounds ] hi, i'm ensure clear... clear, huh? i'm not juice or fancy water. i've gotine grams of protein. that's three times more than me! [ female announcer ] ensure clear. nine grams protein. zero fat. in blueberry/pomegranate and peach. now is a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a plan that really meets your needs and your budget? as you probably know, medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they cover some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you in out-of-pocket medical cost
first term, there are growing concerns about a white house request to eliminate one of the few tools congress has to keep government spending in check. >>> and a new report raising serious questions about how taxpayer money's being spent including claims that it helped folks attend a training course that looked like something straight out of the walking dead. [gunfire] [ loud party sounds ] hi, i'm ensure clear... clear, huh? i'm not juice or fancy water. i've gotine grams of protein....
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held white house christmas party for reporters last night. the first couple was charming, the food was great. decorations, here is how a local station in seattle described them. >> some republicans are pushing boehner and other leader
held white house christmas party for reporters last night. the first couple was charming, the food was great. decorations, here is how a local station in seattle described them. >> some republicans are pushing boehner and other leader
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., a couple of serious were given, and he said, if president obama was white and unemployment was what it was for black americans, 14%, he said blacks would be marching around the white house because they would not stand for it. he was almost laughing when i read the article. he said, you know, the president knows we will give deference to him. we will give him a break. you tell me how that body is not irrelevant if he admits they are not holding president obama accountable as previous presidents because of the color of his skin. unemployment is the highest it has been for black americans since 1984. 14.3%. almost double the national average. you and i have spoken about problems going back to the 1960's. the trend was seen here. a baby being born out of wedlock. where are we today? it is worse. why is it members of the congressional caucus, black representatives to congress, why are they not looking at policies to empower blacks and prevent this from happening? not policies of victimization saying, what will the government give me next? that is not empowerment. >> right after the elect
., a couple of serious were given, and he said, if president obama was white and unemployment was what it was for black americans, 14%, he said blacks would be marching around the white house because they would not stand for it. he was almost laughing when i read the article. he said, you know, the president knows we will give deference to him. we will give him a break. you tell me how that body is not irrelevant if he admits they are not holding president obama accountable as previous...
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will fall back into recession if president obama and congressional republicans can't head off big tax increases and government spending cuts that are now 25 days away. for now, the administration is looking at the economy's bright side. let's go live to our white house correspondent dan loathian. >> reporter: the white house says it is another indication that the economy is starting to heal from some of the wounds inflicted by the economic downturn. vice president joe biden out speaking with middle class americans today said that the u.s. economy has turned the corner. he was very emphatic about that saying saying it is moving in a positive direction. at the same time, he was putting pressure on lawmakers to come to an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. it was yet another white house effort to rally support around its approach to the fiscal cliff. joe biden sitting down with seven middle class americans worried about their taxes going up. >> these are hard working, serious americans who are playing by the rules, doing it all right, and struggling already in this economy. >> reporter
will fall back into recession if president obama and congressional republicans can't head off big tax increases and government spending cuts that are now 25 days away. for now, the administration is looking at the economy's bright side. let's go live to our white house correspondent dan loathian. >> reporter: the white house says it is another indication that the economy is starting to heal from some of the wounds inflicted by the economic downturn. vice president joe biden out speaking...
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john boehner is meeting with president obama at the white house. we have new signs today that the gop's support is crumbling. and they called it the crime of the century. five young men convicted of a heinous assault in new york's central park. the only problem sfwh they didn't do it. >>> once a juvenile is broken down, you can basically tell him anything. and, you know, they fed me the names. >> my interview with the central park five, a powerful story of injustice and fighting for what's right. you're watching po ining "polit nation" on msnbc. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerew
john boehner is meeting with president obama at the white house. we have new signs today that the gop's support is crumbling. and they called it the crime of the century. five young men convicted of a heinous assault in new york's central park. the only problem sfwh they didn't do it. >>> once a juvenile is broken down, you can basically tell him anything. and, you know, they fed me the names. >> my interview with the central park five, a powerful story of injustice and fighting...
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we have obama in the white house. the unions are going whild here. in all seriousness, i don't think unions are any more placid here than they are in china. >> but in china, workers go out on wildcat strikes all the time. foxconn which manufactures about 97% of apple's products, they've been really subject to labor troubles, from suicides to strikes. so i think apple is starting to see that there are some really important economic reasons to manufacturing. they're not the only company doing that. >> is it robots they're going -- i was told that apple is going into a plant in the u.s. that's a robotic plant so american workers aren't really going to be hired. >> last year in foxconn, they had 10,000 robots. if you have robots, china's cost manufacturing advantage is really nil except for chinese consumers. >> as long as we keep drilling for natural gas and we have the shale revolution, that's going to make us more competitive. i'm not making a case for china. i'm just a little interested in the apple case. that's what i'm saying. i'm a little interest
we have obama in the white house. the unions are going whild here. in all seriousness, i don't think unions are any more placid here than they are in china. >> but in china, workers go out on wildcat strikes all the time. foxconn which manufactures about 97% of apple's products, they've been really subject to labor troubles, from suicides to strikes. so i think apple is starting to see that there are some really important economic reasons to manufacturing. they're not the only company...
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to me, doing research here, the irs has 36 obama white house aids, owe 833 # -- $83 #3,000 in back taxes. they still have jobs. neil: legitimate taxes there, but i am curious bout this. raised a good point as did katrina on -- when i got out of school, if you went into government, it was like the peace corp., a good service thing to do, didn't expect to get rich, but it was like a righteousness to it. now, katrina's right. there's money to be made going into government, and security to be found in government. >> average federal workers earn $32,000 more than the average private sector worker, and i think there's just resentment towards federal workers because they are protected, because the administration is adding them. we see it every month. neil: in other words, you're here to serve us, not us you. what do you think of that, katrina? >> well, i also think a lot of small businesses, and business in general, a lot of times, get, you know, a bad wrap in the press, and as an entrepreneur, i started the business from scratch. i worked at the library in college to pay for my education, maki
to me, doing research here, the irs has 36 obama white house aids, owe 833 # -- $83 #3,000 in back taxes. they still have jobs. neil: legitimate taxes there, but i am curious bout this. raised a good point as did katrina on -- when i got out of school, if you went into government, it was like the peace corp., a good service thing to do, didn't expect to get rich, but it was like a righteousness to it. now, katrina's right. there's money to be made going into government, and security to be found...